Chinese For Us
ChineseFor.Us has impressively well-made online Chinese courses. The content is explained extremely well, in a simple manner, and with a lot of depth. Although they don’t yet offer courses for intermediate and higher levels, the beginner content is excellent.
Every aspect is done really well.
The courses are as comprehensive as you’ll find.
Very affordable given the high-quality and comprehensive courses.
- The most in-depth courses you’ll find anywhere online. No course will give you as solid of a foundation for learning Chinese as ChineseFor.Us.
- The videos and quizzes are very well-made. It’s clear that they put in the effort to make a quality product.
- It’s very affordable, especially if you’re willing to commit to a six-month plan. A subscription gives you access to all courses.
I Don’t Like
- The content may be overly covered. For a beginner, it may be better to learn some topics “well enough” instead of mastering every detail.
- If you’re just looking to pass an HSK test, some other courses might get you there faster but won’t give you as strong of a foundation.
A subscription to ChineseFor.Us costs $24.99/month. If you commit to six-months up front this falls to $9.99/month. A one-year subscription would cost $8.99/month.
ChineseFor.Us is a newer site offering online Chinese courses. I’m very excited to see how this site comes together in the future. If they continue to put out as high of quality content as they have so far, it could easily become the go-to resource for learning Chinese online.
The courses on Chinese For Us are exceptionally well-made. The content is covered more in-depth than I’ve seen in any other online Chinese course. I don’t think you’ll find another resource will give you as strong of a foundation for learning Mandarin.
Their courses are a rare combination of high-quality, comprehensive structure, and affordable.
So far, the biggest issue I see is that they haven’t yet covered HSK4 and higher levels. Although, the depth at which they cover the lower levels goes far beyond what others have done, so there’s actually more material than you may expect.
This review will look at their Beginner, HSK1, HSK2, HSK3, Pinyin Drills, Tone Drills, and Writing courses.
A six-month membership only costs about $89.94. You can then save an additional 15% by using the promo code “alr15off”.
Anybody getting started learning Chinese should take a look at Chinese For Us. There’s also a free 7-day trial.
But for now, let’s get into the review.
Beginner, HSK 1, and HSK2 Courses
On ChineseFor.Us, the Beginner and HSK1 are actually two separate courses even though most places would group them together. The Beginner course is meant to come first, with the HSK1, HSK2 and HSK3 courses building on each previous level.
Each level teaches much more than what you might expect to find at that level and includes videos and quizzes. They get the student to participate in the lessons as well, so you’re not simply sitting passively.
Lili will be your teacher throughout the courses. She taught Chinese as a second language in several universities in China and is currently teaching Chinese in the United States. She has a master’s degree in Chinese Linguistics and is also a certified HSK and YCT examiner. Her experience of teaching Chinese is very obvious in the design and presentation of these lessons.
First Video – Topic
The first video would be a typical style lesson where the focus is on vocabulary, sentence structure, phrases, grammar and so on.
Lili explains the vocabulary, sentences, and grammar very naturally and the lessons tie together quite nicely. I also like that although pinyin is used, it’s not used at the expense of the Chinese characters.
Lili makes sure to pronounce the words very clearly and several times. There are gaps in the videos so that you can practice speaking along with the lessons. Sometimes when resources do this, it can feel like the lessons drag on longer than necessary, but I didn’t get this impression from the videos on Chinese For Us.
While going through the lessons, there was a lot of stuff I learned, even though I had already passed higher level HSK tests. There were several instances where I ended up saying “ohhhh” to myself after hearing something in a video.
These lessons are incredibly thorough – more thorough than I’ve seen anywhere else.
Second Video – Characters
The second video of the lesson focuses on the characters covered in the previous video. The purpose of these videos is to help you learn to write and memorize the characters you learned.
First, she’ll break down the characters into their radicals and explain when you’re likely to come across those. You’ll do some exercises where you find which characters those radicals appear. Later, you’re shown how the characters are written.
Some lessons have downloadable writing sheets to go along with the characters in the video. This is a great touch as it allows you to print them off and practice offline. Not all lessons have these writing sheets however. If you’re especially interested in learning how to write characters then take a look at the Characters Writing Course. You can also get plenty of practice writing sheets on Hanzi Grids.
After each video, you’ll have an interactive quiz. These are pretty good but could be improved some – which they did for the HSK2 level.
The question type varies but mainly involve dragging and dropping elements. There are some listening where you’ll match sounds to words, translations, sentence ordering, and listening activities where you match possible questions to answers. This last type was my favorite and I’d like to see more questions like these.
But some of the questions were too easy. Let’s look at this sample question. That said, most questions aren’t so simple, and the quizzes have been improved at the HSK2 level.
I don’t think matching pinyin to the audio would be difficult even for beginners when the possible answers don’t sound at all similar. I like the way Yoyo Chinese used similar sounding words to make the quizzes more challenging.
I think the quizzes for the characters videos are much better. The question types are more varied and challenging. These questions may include matching pinyin and definitions to the radical, matching radicals to characters, matching definitions to characters, matching characters to audio, translating sentences, rearranging characters to make a sentence, typing characters, and sentence dictation.
There are also review lessons periodically throughout the courses. These review lessons come in the form of a short dialogue or story. It’s a good way to not only review what you’ve learned but also get comfortable listening to a bit longer content.
There will be comprehension questions to look out for when starting and then they’ll be answered after the dialogue. There’s also a transcript in English, Simplified Characters, and pinyin.
The focus is on characters. The first and last time the dialogue is played only the characters are shown. You’ll see pinyin and translations later in the video to help with understanding. I really like that they stress learning characters early on in the course. You can see that they’re focused on building the foundation for long-term learners.
The HSK3 course is a relatively new addition that will have 50 lessons with 400 videos when it is complete. Currently about half of the course is available, and they release about 2 new lessons every few weeks.
The HSK 3 courses have a different structure than the previous levels. While HSK1 and HSK2 focused on a specific topic and character writing, the HSK 3 courses let you tackle the new characters on your own.
The lessons are broken down into three sections: the first section introduces you to new vocabulary; the second introduces you to grammatical structures; and the third introduces a dialogue and a story that ties the new concepts together. As always, Lili leaves space for you to repeat after every example sentence.
The quizzes are especially helpful, as they continue to advance your understanding of new vocabulary words and grammar structures. At this level, you will start to learn how to problem solve the meaning of new words based on what you have previously learned. For example, if you learned the meanings of “辛苦“ and ”好笑“， what could 苦笑 mean? Similarly, you may be asked to guess a new word based on your previous knowledge.
What makes these quizzes so effective is that Lili tests your understanding of how to use words in context; in order to respond, you have to understand the meaning of every sentence — focusing on the definition of individual words alone will only lead you astray. But don’t worry, there are thorough explanations that will support you if you didn’t manage to catch the meaning the first time around.
The HSK 3 course will bridge the gap between the beginner and intermediate levels. Although you may find it challenging, follow Lili’s guidance and it will be well worth your time.
My thoughts on these courses
The Beginner, HSK1, HSK2, and HSK3 courses are incredibly comprehensive.
Taking the HSK 1 course on Chinese For Us probably won’t be the quickest route to pass an HSK 1 exam. This is because of how fully everything is covered. You’ll learn more than you necessarily need to know. In my mind, that’s a good thing, but if you’re studying Chinese strictly to pass an exam, you may prefer Chinese Zero to Hero.
However, most people studying Chinese are going to be far more interested in developing their communication skills, and not passing tests. For most, this in-depth, sometimes overly detailed, and slow start will prove worthwhile in the long run.
You may have noticed that I didn’t mention pronunciation. These first two courses don’t actually cover pronunciation at all. However, it would be a major mistake for a beginner Chinese course to ignore pronunciation and tones.
Chinese For Us doesn’t ignore them though. Instead, they’ve made these two topics into two separate courses – Pinyin Drills and Tone Drills.
Pinyin Drills Course
Just like their other courses, this Pinyin Drills course is among the best resources for learning pinyin and pronunciation that I’ve found.
The Pinyin Drills course is comprised of 13 lessons with 13 videos and 24 quizzes. Again, these videos typically last between 5 and 10 minutes long.
Learning proper pronunciation is essential when learning Mandarin and many other resources skip over this too much. Here though, it’s covered exceptionally well. The videos explain the tongue and mouth position for all sounds. They encourage the student to get involved and practice along with the videos.
After the videos, there are two quizzes. Here you’ll get practice listening to a sound and choosing the corresponding initial or final. I can see these being very helpful to beginners. I remember when I first started learning Chinese, I found it really difficult to hear the differences in pronunciation. This is great for improving that skill.
My Thoughts on the Pinyin Drills Course
I think this Pinyin Drills course is great. Anybody starting to learn Chinese should spend considerable time learning pronunciation early on. This course and some practice may be the best option for learning Chinese pronunciation.
The weakness I see is something that is consistent with nearly every other pronunciation course as well – no feedback. While, there are a lot of opportunities to practice your pronunciation, sometimes it can be hard to spot errors you’re making by yourself. It’s not a problem with the course – it’s just beyond its scope.
With Speechling you can record yourself repeating sentences, compare them to an original recording, and have them corrected by a teacher. The unlimited plan costs $19.99/mo but you can save 10% off with the promo code “ALR123”.
Another option would be to work with a tutor to get feedback on your pronunciation. There is nowhere as convenient, flexible, and affordable as italki to find a teacher online.
Tone Drills Course
The Tone Drills course, like the Pinyin Drills course, will help you master Chinese pronunciation. Just like everything else I’ve seen on Chinese For Us, this course is incredibly detailed. You won’t need to know everything in this course as a beginner or to pass an exam. But, if you take the time to go through it, you’ll have an extremely strong foundation going forward.
I’ve used other resources like the ChinesePod’s Say It Right Series for learning Pronunciation. Still, it didn’t take long for me to pick up some new things from this course.
The lessons don’t focus on single tone pronunciation for too long. By Lesson 2, they move into tone pair drills and include full sentences to practice as well. This is important because you can’t learn pronunciation and tones in isolation.
The quizzes include a lot of listening drills. They’re very helpful for learning to hear the differences in tones.
The third tone is very tricky for a lot of people learning Chinese. This is evident by the fact that 5 of the 16 lessons here are focused on the 3rd tone and tone change rules with the 3rd tone. I learned far more from this Tone Drills course than I’ve learned from any other resource.
Many of the things, explained in this video, I’d found that I had sort of learned naturally. For example, 好不好 being pronounced as a half 3rd tone + 4th tone + full 3rd tone. It’s something that I never realized I had learned. It’s also something I realized I might not have been applying to other similar structures.
My Thoughts on the Tone Drills Course
This is by far the most thorough resource I’ve found for learning Chinese tones. It reaches the point where it may be too much information. A lot of the information, you’ll likely learn naturally just from listening and speaking Chinese. However, it can still be beneficial to have this explained.
If you’re a beginner, it may be too much information, too soon. I’d worry that it might discourage new students or make them worry too much about tones in the beginning. That said, learning Chinese is a long process. Starting with a strong base, even if it means moving slowly at first, will make things much easier later.
Chinese Characters: Hands-on Writing Course
Continuing the trend of incredibly thorough courses, the Chinese Characters: Hands-on Writing Course fits right in. I’d be really surprised if there were a more detailed online course for learning to write Chinese Characters than this one.
This course builds up from learning to write the basic strokes and moves you into learning to write full characters. It can feel a bit overly technical at some points and includes learning names of the strokes.
But again, learning Chinese is a long process. Sure, you could skip over this stuff and be just fine. However, if being able to hand-write characters is important for you, the depth of these lessons will give you that solid foundation. I’d expect the time invested here will pay off for you later.
Unlike the other courses, these videos don’t have quizzes with them. But, there’s something more fitting – practice writing sheets and homework sheets. The practice sheets are meant to be used as you follow along with the videos. The homework sheet is for homework – duh.
My Thoughts on the Chinese Characters: Hands-on Writing Course
If you’re looking for somewhere to learn how to write Chinese Characters, from the basics, you’re unlikely to find a better course than this. However, learning to write characters by hand is a relatively low priority for a lot of students – myself included. If it’s a low priority for you, then you may find yourself wanting to skip this course. But, if it is a priority for you, you should definitely take a look at this course.
Learning Road Map
The learning road map is something that you should be aware of. As a beginner, it would feel natural to jump right into the beginner course and work straight through those lessons. However, that’s not ideal. Since pinyin and tones are covered in separate courses, it’d be easy to learn a lot of Chinese without first learning proper pronunciation and tones.
That could be a serious problem and lead you to develop bad pronunciation habits.
The addition of the learning road map will help you figure out the best path to approach all of the materials. There are two suggestions, and either one would be suitable depending on the learner’s personal preferences.
Plans and Prices
Access to all materials on ChineseFor.Us is available for a monthly subscription. Although subscribing for one month is somewhat expensive, the six month and one-year plans are a fantastic value.
One month costs $24.99/mo
Six months costs $9.99/mo
One year costs $8.99/mo
Foundation. Foundation. Foundation.
I should have used a thesaurus when writing this review.
It’s true though. I don’t think there’s a tool – an app, website, or course that will give you quite as solid of a foundation for learning Chinese as Chinese For Us.
It may not be for everybody. If you’re not planning on studying Chinese long-term than it’s not for you. It’s not necessarily the quickest way to reach a conversational level of Chinese or to pass a test.
But, if you spend the time on these courses in the beginning, you’ll benefit from it later on. You won’t find yourself with many random gaps in your knowledge. You’ll have learned pretty much everything you need to learn and a lot more.